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Eddie Lee Sausage, interviewed by Dan Augustine — from HOOFSIP, Winter 1994

Sausage: The film project is moving along as before. Presently, there is a top-notch writer working up a first draft. He’s a very intense, sharp guy. We were flown out to Los Anguels two months ago for a conference with him. There are already bids from production companies to produce the film.
HOOFSIP: Did Raymond and Peter always fight like that? Or did you just record them when they argued, just to make them come across as grumpy old men?
Sausage: Of course they didn’t always fight. But the amazing thing about them was the alarming frequency of the fights. I think the longest period of silence next door lasted three weeks. Toward the end of our tenure at the Pepto-Bismol Palace, Pete and Ray were fighting at least every other day. And when they were fighting, it was an all day event.
HOOFSIP: Would you consider Tony the "peace-maker" since the majority of "skits" he’s in on "Shut Up, Little Man" are probably the least arguitive of the "skits"?
Sausage: Tony was curious element in the Pete and Ray equation. I mean, you listen to the tapes and there is the most intolerable, vitriolic, belligerent screeching going on for thirty or forty minutes, and suddenly, quietly, you will hear Tony say something or hear one of the others refer to his being in the room. And you think: "Holy shit, you mean someone is sitting there in the room tolerating this onslaught?" It is obvious that he was a pathological, sick pup. He was by no means a peace-maker, and I think all in all he was the probable cause of the jealousy-fueled fights. In an interview tape conducted by a New Zealander for radio broadcast in Auckland ("Peter and Tony"), Tony proudly and repeatedly notes how he ’kicked Ray’s ass and put him in the hospital more than once.’
HOOFSIP: I’ve heard about the way Raymond and Peter spent Thanksgiving, what about other holidays?
Sausage: Well, the most brutal holiday living next to Pete and Ray was Christmas 1987. It was Christmas Eve and they had been pounding on each other all day. It was a frightful time, our first Christmas away from home, and next door these monsters were carving away at each other all day. You can hear it on one of the tapes. Ray is thrashing Peter for a good hour, "I hate all queers. Queers ain’t human. I despise you." And very quietly in the background you hear Pete respond, "Merry Christmas, Ray." Tragic. Anyway, the verbal fight turned physical and they sprawled out onto the veranda. It culminated with Peter throwing Ray over the balcony railing onto the cement fifteen feet below. Merry Christmas, Ray.
HOOFSIP: Does Peter and Tony know you’re making a profit off of them?
Sausage: First of all, we have made next to nothing on the tapes. We sold the rights to the record label for a few hundred bucks. We thought: "Who would want to listen to this stuff?" Then, of course, it took off and the CD sold out the first three pressings. Whe we sold the film option rights, again it was for peanuts. Mitchell and I are both very conscientious and we wanted to help Peter out. I mean, we never even intended for the tapes to circulate as they did. We never wanted to exploit the man, even though he had made our lives miserable for so long. Plus, we thought he might need some money. So, we took half of what we made to Peter and said, "Look, you’re not going to believe us but. . . we made this tape of you and Ray fighting [to which he responded, "Ray and I never fought."] . . . and it has become a sort of cult classic. . . blah blah blah. . . here’s some money." He looked at us and said, "I don’t want your money, babes, I don’t need your money." And, then for about an hour and a half he obsessed on us sexually, saying, "Do you wanna get a hotel room? I would like to show you my collection of naughty polaroids. I would love to suck your cocks."
HOOFSIP: What is your favorite line of each person involved in this "soap opera"?
Sausage: Raymond: I was a mean muthafucka in my time, and I still am! Peter: Yeah you were probably wounded when you fell on your bayonet when you were drunk. Tony: I seen them potheads. They, uh, smoke a joint of weed, and then the next thing you know, them sum bitches eat!
HOOFSIP: How many hours do you have of these guys on tape, and is all of it available to the public? Sausage: I don’t even know anymore. At one time I figured it out to be about fifteen hours. But, I moved around a great deal and I don’t even know where all the stuff is. I definitely have six volumes of 90 minute rants. And then the two interview tapes that are sixty minutes each. I know I’ll find more of the stuff if and when I settle down again.
HOOFSIP: Have Raymond and Peter been single all their lives?
Sausage: They may have been technically "single," but they were definitely married and bound to each other by hatred and will be for eternity because of the tapes.

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